Feingold Control Spending Now Act

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Control Spending Now Act: Sacrificing NASA's Long-Term Effectiveness for Political Expediency, Ian Malone for NASA Watch

As the nation looks for ways to cut out-of-control spending, one senator in particular has proposed a measure that will have a negative impact on the future of manned spaceflight. Senator Russ Feingold, (D-Wis.), has proposed the Control Spending Now Act which would cause the plans to return astronauts to the moon to be delayed by some five years.

Feingold has stated that given the current fiscal crisis that it would be fiscally irresponsible to return astronauts to the moon. He has also stated that the astronauts would be endangered by what he called, "unnecessary risk." Feingold is a member of the Senate Budget Committee.

Utilizing the Augustine Commission's report as part of his rationale as well as the recent displays by the American public of their displeasure at the amount of spending that has happened in the past year; Feingold entered the act to cut the current U.S. deficit, which stands at $1.42 trillion.

Ironically, while Feingold takes issue with NASA returning to the job of exploration, he has little issue with supporting Health Care Reform. Although estimates for the current Health Care Reform Bill vary between $1 trillion, $905 and $849 billion dollars - the cost is substantial and will encompass one-sixth of the American economy. NASA's budget by comparison, at its height during the Apollo program was $35 billion. NASA's budget for the 2010 fiscal year is currently estimated at $18 billion dollars.

The estimated savings of delaying the lunar missions is some $24.7 billion. However, the real expense could actually be in delaying the lunar program. By reigning in NASA's efforts, Feingold would in fact be giving a green light for other nations to take the lead. China, Europe, Russia and India are moving ahead with their lunar ambitions despite economic concerns.

The plans of these countries appear more pragmatic than the Apollo Program, based less on prestige and science and more on the future vitality of their respective peoples. With the recent discovery of caches of water on the moon as well as the deposits of metals, minerals and other resources to be found in the lunar regolith, the moon is a tempting target for exploration and possible exploitation. Senator Feingold's attempts to delay NASA's lunar resurgence may allow these others nation's aspirations to reach fruition at the expense of his own constituents.


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Feingold’s bill could save us $2.5 billion a year for 10 years. Wow! Last years Federal budget was $3.1 trillion, more than a 1000 times that amount. If Feingold is really serious about reducing Federal spending then reforming wasteful Federal health care expenditures could save us over $200 billion a year.

http://newpapyrusmagazine.blogspot.com/2001/11/how-real-public-option-could.html

Finally getting out of Iraq could save us another $100 billion a year and funding a million man Afghan army and police force to replace nearly 70,000 US troops in Afghanistan would save us at least $50 billion a year since Afghan soldiers salaries are less than $2000 a year. So that’s $350 billion in annual savings compared to $2.5 billion.

Of course, since the NASA budget actually generates more money than it consumes, Feingold’s bill would be costing the US both money and jobs!

http://thespaceadvocate.blogspot.com/2009/12/you-want-economic-impact-you-cant.html

With all do respect, are these Senators idiots? Morons? We have the highest unemployment in decades and they are spending money on lengthening the time for unemployment insurance and at the same time they are cutting hundreds if not thousands of high tech jobs. So that they can spend more of the taxpayer money on unemployment? I'm not saying that the US space program should be a jobs program but these cuts in successful science programs just shows how ignorant these folks really are. I guess if you fire people and make them dependent on you for unemployment insurance and socialized health insurance the Senators and Congressmen think that those people will be eternally indebted to them. Thanks to the people in Mass. for waking up and attempting to put a stop to the madness. Now we all have to do our part and contact our representatives and let them know how we feel. If they don't listen, make sure that we vote THEM out of office.

Brilliant. Plenty of support for a jerry-rigged ruin of a bill, but no thought whatsoever for our nation's role at the vanguard of technology.

Bad. You don't start worrying about the deficit until a recovery is near complete.

Anything else just gets you another collapse and a double-dip depression.

But there's worse news for NASA...

All this and now Obama has used the shock of yesterday's MA-Sen loss to get congress to authorize Kent Conrad's "Cat Food Commission." And while Peter Orszag's primary interest is in gleefully shredding entitlements and the social safety nets, you can rest assured that NASA and other government agencies will be offered up as sacrificial goats to people who just found their SS savings gutted and turned over to the corporations.

So Feingold's bill isn't the worst thing facing NASA as of now...

to newpapyrus: word.

That proposal for a health care plan is also interesting.

Lovely. The U.S. may as well abdicate leadership in space now. That way current astronauts can rush over to get a good place in line to wait for rationed healthcare services.

Does that mean beyond the Five Years it's already delayed by incompetence and squabbling?! I suspect Political pals of Musk are at work such that he and SPACEX will end up being the only manned access to Space for Americans...

You know this reminds me of the UK in the 1960's and '70's where a Socialist Government systematically dismantled the British Aerospace industry. It turned out that the Prime Minister concerned - Harold Wilson - was labelled a KGB agent by M.I.6 MUCH later (after his death!). could it be...

Thank you!

The Democrats love Medicare. And the Republicans love the private health insurance companies. Maybe the new Independent movement will like my health care debit card/ credit card proposal which I believe is far more efficient than the other two.

http://newpapyrusmagazine.blogspot.com/2001/11/how-real-public-option-could.html

But its a shame that some of our politicians want to pretend that reducing NASA's tiny $10 billion a year manned space program could significantly reduce our $12 trillion national debt which is mostly the result of our extremely inefficient Federal health care expenditures plus a very costly cold war with the former Soviet Union in addition to a totally unnecessary war in Iraq.

Even if you totally eliminated our $10 billion a year manned space program, which would actually hurt our economy, it would take over a thousand years to pay off the national debt with that tiny amount of money!

Marcel F. Williams

Sen. Feingold has a comments box on his website. We can make our feelings known to him more directly there.

newpapyrus said... "The Democrats love Medicare. And the Republicans love the private health insurance companies."

The following is topic drift but... it is also very relevant to questions concerning Obama and NASA's future as an example of something that keeps coming up... we'll see what the mod says :)

Anyways, newpapyrus:
You are aware, are you not, that the HCR bill that was designed to Obama's specifications by the Senate, the bill that had all meaningful reforms stripped, loophole or carfully omitted from it at every step along the way... was a massive multi-trillion dollar giveaway to the corporations?

And yet the reflexive urge of a lot of commenters on various space forums is to cry "SOCIALIST!"... or worse... while setting phasers on severely discombobulate" and charging at flank speed.

If you want to have a chance at understanding what Obama's plans on NASA might be you must do so from a basis of what he actually is, politically, and not from whatever you might expect him to be because he comes under the heading of "Democrat" and because he campaigned hard to get the progressive vote.

Obama lied. Early. Often.

And that's why the financial wizards who were part of the meltdown are... still running the economy.

That's why the health care reform bill was written by a former vice-president of Wellpoint (true! it was in the metadata of the doc file and somebody forgot to clean it up before release)

That's why so many promises that were made during the campaign that would justify beliefs that Obama leaned to the left... were left in the dust.

And that's why Dems got their butts kicked in sky-blue Massachusetts. Polling shows that it was in fact a protest vote against the massive corporate tilt-a-whirl that Obama has been on ever since he hit the Oval Office.

Obama is a product of the schools of thought that arose from the Republican resurgence. The "lets be more pro-corporatist than the Republicans!" think tanks like the Democratic Leadership Council and Third Way are much much closer to his neoliberal beliefs than any fanciful connections to Marx or Mao.

And now back to NASA:

It is a simple fact those who insist that Obama must be some kind of a "socialist" are so far off the mark that there's no possible way they can get a handle on what Obama might and might not do with regards to NASA.

And thus the basis of my own predictions still stand: I said Obama would promote commercial and an HLV development that would not-coincidentally last until Obama was out of office... and that he would otherwise tell NASA to leave him alone.

But events and, frankly, the Direct team have changed that so that the path of least resistance for him now is to allow development of the inline SDLV while still promoting commercial...

... assuming that nothing happens to create a situation where it's easier to gut NASA than give up a corporate "must-have."

These people must be crazy...I am 16, and I intern for NASA. I'm not a rocket scientist, I have no degree, and I'll probably never step foot in an engineering course, but even I can see how huge of a deal this truly is. It's not about money, or politics, but this project is making peoples dreams come true. I find it insane that the only way our world can come together in a truly helpful and peaceful way is if we leave this planet. I have never seen such respect and cooperation between nations as that seen with the ISS. I work for the Orion project, and I see the trials and tribulations that civil servants and contractors face alike. Has anybody even thought about just how many people work for this project. We have one of the biggest organizations at NASA, trust me I do the mail. How many people could lose jobs due to budget cuts? How would that help? This budget talk has everybody worried and stressed. The only "unnecessary risk" we are facing now is that we may not have the funding to truly make everything the top of it's game. With a budget cut the risk is greatly increased, because people must focus more on budget than making sure everything is done right. It is sad to watch these people who work so hard everyday repeatedly be knocked down by government officials who can't possibly see how much this truly means to our world. I would like to invite anyone who opposes what is being done here to come work for one week, just one week, on this project. I promise the attitude will totally change. Mine did.

To NASA's Future: well said.
But don't give up just yet. There are enormous forces at play that support the VSE and are prepared to fight for it if necessary. In my time as a space advocate and communicator (28+ years) I have seen Presidents come and go, and the space program has survived them all. We did so then-we will, if necessary, do so again. And the coalition that Sean O'Keefe set in motion back in 2004 is stronger than ever. if Obama wants another political fight on his hands (I hope not!) then a fight is what he'll get.
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