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Money Saved By Canceling Missions Usually Just Disappears

By Keith Cowing
NASA Watch
April 22, 2014
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NASA’s Extended Science Missions in Peril, Paul Spudis, Air & Space
“We do not yet know how the Senior Review will turn out. NASA is famous for wanting to “move on” to the next thing and often abandons working spacecraft. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush but as things currently stand, there isn’t much in the mission pipeline to move on to. Planetary Science has taken several massive budgetary hits in the past few years, with more on the way. The termination of LRO and MER will not help move new missions off the drawing board. Money not spent on these extended missions will probably slide into SMD’s Black Hole of Funding (the James Webb Space Telescope) or be dissipated on new paperwork, committee meetings and concept studies. It would be both fiscally prudent and programmatically responsible for NASA to fund and retain these working and still productive extended missions.”

NASA Watch founder, Explorers Club Fellow, ex-NASA, Away Teams, Journalist, Space & Astrobiology, Lapsed climber.

23 responses to “Money Saved By Canceling Missions Usually Just Disappears”

  1. Victor G. D. de Moraes says:
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    I believe it is urgent to develop new technologies. If there is money left over, it should be spent. Studies of new propulsion concepts, energy production, for the health of astronauts … I believe it is still absurd to spend money on developing new rockets. Rocket is something prehistoric. I do not know if I’m crazy, or if I have a very advanced view, but I think these rockets, breathing fire by the tail, something really prehistoric. Has been useful, but it is very inefficient if you really want to explore great distances. We need a fast, safe and economical spaceship. Only search solves. Equal to the best science fictions. Orion is a step backwards from the Shuttle. There are only increasing capacity, nothing new. Disappointing.

    • SpaceMunkie says:
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      what would you suggest to use to get to orbit?

      • Victor G. D. de Moraes says:
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        I sent a proposal to NASA to a centrifugal inertial propeller, rotor … But it’s been five years since I expect a response. Works perfectly. It is strong, non-polluting, and theoretically inexhaustible, and is reusable …

        • Hug Doug ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ says:
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          sounds like the Rotary Rocket, which didn’t do too well…

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wik

          • Victor G. D. de Moraes says:
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            Seems, but it is not … It’s actually a propeller, which propels the space. The whole drawing is from a helicopter to fly here on Earth and in space. A “Spacehelicopter”. Able to reach unimaginable speeds. Very good, very good, very good. I’ve tried, but I have no “budget” to move forward. And I chose to search for NASA, but I was disappointed because they were not able to answer. I thought I’d look Chinese, but I do not want to do this yet. Generates no air displacement, does not hold in the air, does not pollute, do not waste fuel (can be electric) among other huge advantages … I’d show you the design, if it was not mess up, my negotiations …

          • Hug Doug ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ says:
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            a helicopter would not work in space, there’s no air to push around.

          • Victor G. D. de Moraes says:
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            My friend, but it is precisely this differential propeller. It is inertial. Far from being a common propeller. It is a propeller, which does not require atmosphere air. You will soon learn, as NASA disclose. I’m giving only an appetizer to stir curiosity.

          • Hug Doug ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ says:
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            propellers have to push something. in vacuum there is nothing to push against. sorry, your idea is not physically possible, and therefore has no merit whatsoever, and this is why you have not heard anything back from anyone.

          • Victor G. D. de Moraes says:
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            Wow, you give a sentence like that without doing a deep scan? It seems to me that you are one of those who say to the Wright Brothers is impossible a machine heavier than air flying … I hope that these comments are saved forever, for you to carry the weight of having said shit. If you do not know, an inertial propeller does not need air to push. Live and see …

          • Hug Doug ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ says:
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            the description you gave of your device is of something which is physically impossible to work.

            …a propeller would just spin in space. it would not move a spacecraft. there’s nothing for the blades of the propeller to push against.

          • Victor G. D. de Moraes says:
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            Whoever said that has blades?

          • Hug Doug ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ says:
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            you did. “centrifugal inertial propeller, rotor”

            propellers have blades.

          • Victor G. D. de Moraes says:
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            I sent over fifty proposals for NASA. For this reason they are slow to respond.

          • Hug Doug ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ says:
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            LOL, you are a kook who keeps harassing them. no wonder they decided not to respond to you.

          • SpaceHoosier says:
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            I think it might be related to this.

            http://www.google.com/paten

            for the life of me though, I couldn’t figure out how such a contraption could ‘fly’.

          • Hug Doug ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ says:
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            nice find. and you’re right, it wouldn’t work. Inertia can’t be used to “move” something. by definition, it is the tendency of an already-moving object to keep moving, unless an outside force acts on it. inertia is not an outside force!

            also… “It will be possible in the future to create propellers which operate in accordance with the above mentioned principles, when the technological level will allow to make rotors rotations having both speed about speed of light and a mass about about a milligram.”

            yeah… it’s gotta be this thing. it’s the same level of nuttiness as this guy.

            crazy!!

          • Victor G. D. de Moraes says:
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            It’s very different …

        • Gonzo_Skeptic says:
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          Works perfectly. It is strong, non-polluting, and theoretically inexhaustible, and is reusable …

          Did any of the other ideas you sent to NASA involve tin-foil hats?

          • Victor G. D. de Moraes says:
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            I think you’ll need …

          • Samantha Nichole says:
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            Victor, I hope you are just fooling around and that you don’t really think you have something that will work…lol

          • SpaceMunkie says:
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            OMG, what did I start, this is the funniest thing I have ever read on this forum, I’m on the floor laughing so hard I’m crying.

            I think Victor is one of the YouTube antigravity crowd inventors.

  2. Victor G. D. de Moraes says:
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    Opportunity and other spacecraft can not be transferred to the private sector, such as universities and companies?