Anyone who uses the phrase ‘Social Justice Warriors” unironically exposes themselves as being driven by a more reactionary agenda than anyone they accuse. The phrase started with so-called “gamergate” loons and MRAs who whine when you criticize them for being sexist… juveniles who harassed and threatened female game developers and critics… and was quickly latched onto by cretins on the site 4chan (famous for defending child pornography) and then moved on to be adopted by the alt-right in general.
Make a point. Give evidence. Cite specifics. You may be taken seriously. But throw around ridiculous reactionary phrases like “SJW,” “triggered,” “safe space,” and “cuck” and you’re just providing an example of the same thoughtless and prejudice-informed rhetorical coding that was so pervasive decades ago among others who were shaken to their cores by the horrors of seeing the civil rights movement etc. take place.
Looks like some cuck got their fee-fee’s hurt because of the truth of who and what these keyboard activists with Stalinistic tendancies and total groupthink really are. I also see you are whining because Gamergate won and successfully defended their hobby against radical feminsm and of course you are totally making things up about harrasment of women and showing your ignorance by conflating MRA’s with Gamergate, something the MRA predates by a good 30 or 40 years, heck, even personally I was calling myself MRA back in the year 2000. Tsk tsk, little butt-hurt propagandist.
I had heard that “outsiders” were likely taking advantage of the political turmoil to create these rogue accounts at NASA and elsewhere. Keith and NASAWatch are the first to check back on it. Kudos!
Yes, liberal activists as usually taking advantage of the situation to push their agenda and only using researchers at NASA to reach their own objectives.
That may be entirely true, but let’s not pretend that liberals are the only ones who are activists and who push agendas. We’re living in an era when government, business, media and even people commenting on a blog like you and I consist virtually entirely of people actively promoting an agenda.
Some people may like to pretend to be shocked to discover that there’s politics involved in politics, but who is fooled?
But as Keith points out, although they call themselves “RogueNASA” their narrow agenda is only NASA climate science not even the rest of NASA science, they could care less about the rest of NASA. Whereas the rest of NASA is what I am interested in.
Who cares what they call themselves? At any rate, it’s a perfectly reasonable name given that they are “going rogue” against the very narrow and precisely targeted agenda the Trump Administration has against climate science.
Also, please do not insult me by pretending that you only care about the rest of NASA, that you don’t care about climate science. Your commenting history shows that you too have a very narrow agenda when it comes to NASA work on climate science… it’s just that in your agenda you desire a very different result than whoever it is that tweets as RogueNASA.
Anyone who has read your comments over the last months can tell that you have a very firm and definite political agenda – and that’s fine and is your right. I also have one. Just please do not insult our intelligence by decrying the ideology of others while implying that your own opposing rigid ideology is not just that but rather some sort of impartial detachment.
When someone with an ideology that is the polar opposite of yours makes their ideology known, criticize it on its merits – don’t hypocritically whine that someone has an ideology merely because it contradicts the one you think you hide.
Unless, of course, your complaint is that they espouse their opinion in their own private media account while being a NASA employee – in which case rather than call you a hypocrite I’ll instead wait for your condemnation of the agenda of the Trump Administration and new overseeing Political Officer which I’m sure is forthcoming.
Sorry, I am not part of any herd mentality so stop trying to pigeon hole me, it won’t work. I prefer to do my own research and form my own opinions.
In terms of climate change, I don’t see government doing anything more than government ever does about a problem, namely studies, debates, and more studies. But if the problem is serious enough private industry addresses it and solves it. That has how it has been throughout economic history.
In terms of climate change the Insurance Industry has already determined it is a real hazard based on decades of records, is on the case and will have far more impact than NASA ever will. FYI some research I did and published with one of my Ph.D. students.
Marcus Benniefield and Thomas L. Matula, (2009). “The Insurance Industry and Climate Change Economics” Review of Business Research, 9 (5) 82-89.
And yes, they have already impacted President Trump on it in the form of insurance rates. Money talks far better than anything.
Huh? RogueNASA et al being pro-evidenced-based climate science – as is NASA, NOAA, EPA, and the science agencies of all Earth’s nations – is some nefarious scheme by ‘liberal activists’? Give a specific example.
Keith, I’m puzzled by the pique here. None of these folks from what I can tell are professional, paid space journalists who are somehow obligated to be all around the country reporting on all things space. The legitimate Rogue tweeters got their start, IIRC, with the NPS and the new Administrations restrictions, and later attacks, on it, followed quickly by very real attacks, silencing, and now defunding-as-prelude-to-killing EPA, climate science programs, energy efficiency programs (e.g., the zeroing-out of ARPA-E, whose excellent annual conference I recently attended…..) etc. Their concerns on those issues are not imaginary – as you know.
And, they are really nice T-shirts; even came in sumo-sizes for moi.
Rogue NASA looks like it is primarily a vehicle for Social Justice Warriors to push a handful of specific agendas.
Was there ever any doubt? Wish they’d shuffle off the the nearest certified Safe Space.
Anyone who uses the phrase ‘Social Justice Warriors” unironically exposes themselves as being driven by a more reactionary agenda than anyone they accuse. The phrase started with so-called “gamergate” loons and MRAs who whine when you criticize them for being sexist… juveniles who harassed and threatened female game developers and critics… and was quickly latched onto by cretins on the site 4chan (famous for defending child pornography) and then moved on to be adopted by the alt-right in general.
Make a point. Give evidence. Cite specifics. You may be taken seriously. But throw around ridiculous reactionary phrases like “SJW,” “triggered,” “safe space,” and “cuck” and you’re just providing an example of the same thoughtless and prejudice-informed rhetorical coding that was so pervasive decades ago among others who were shaken to their cores by the horrors of seeing the civil rights movement etc. take place.
Looks like some cuck got their fee-fee’s hurt because of the truth of who and what these keyboard activists with Stalinistic tendancies and total groupthink really are. I also see you are whining because Gamergate won and successfully defended their hobby against radical feminsm and of course you are totally making things up about harrasment of women and showing your ignorance by conflating MRA’s with Gamergate, something the MRA predates by a good 30 or 40 years, heck, even personally I was calling myself MRA back in the year 2000. Tsk tsk, little butt-hurt propagandist.
It is not about the science but how you feel about the science.
GET IT RIGHT YOU.
In all seriousness – it is nice to see NASAWatch call em out.
Why?
Well, it’s the Earth science that’s in jeopardy, so that shouldn’t be surprising.
And everybody likes t-shirts!
I had heard that “outsiders” were likely taking advantage of the political turmoil to create these rogue accounts at NASA and elsewhere. Keith and NASAWatch are the first to check back on it. Kudos!
Yes, liberal activists as usually taking advantage of the situation to push their agenda and only using researchers at NASA to reach their own objectives.
That may be entirely true, but let’s not pretend that liberals are the only ones who are activists and who push agendas. We’re living in an era when government, business, media and even people commenting on a blog like you and I consist virtually entirely of people actively promoting an agenda.
Some people may like to pretend to be shocked to discover that there’s politics involved in politics, but who is fooled?
But as Keith points out, although they call themselves “RogueNASA” their narrow agenda is only NASA climate science not even the rest of NASA science, they could care less about the rest of NASA. Whereas the rest of NASA is what I am interested in.
Who cares what they call themselves? At any rate, it’s a perfectly reasonable name given that they are “going rogue” against the very narrow and precisely targeted agenda the Trump Administration has against climate science.
Also, please do not insult me by pretending that you only care about the rest of NASA, that you don’t care about climate science. Your commenting history shows that you too have a very narrow agenda when it comes to NASA work on climate science… it’s just that in your agenda you desire a very different result than whoever it is that tweets as RogueNASA.
Anyone who has read your comments over the last months can tell that you have a very firm and definite political agenda – and that’s fine and is your right. I also have one. Just please do not insult our intelligence by decrying the ideology of others while implying that your own opposing rigid ideology is not just that but rather some sort of impartial detachment.
When someone with an ideology that is the polar opposite of yours makes their ideology known, criticize it on its merits – don’t hypocritically whine that someone has an ideology merely because it contradicts the one you think you hide.
Unless, of course, your complaint is that they espouse their opinion in their own private media account while being a NASA employee – in which case rather than call you a hypocrite I’ll instead wait for your condemnation of the agenda of the Trump Administration and new overseeing Political Officer which I’m sure is forthcoming.
You need to chill out for a while.
He’s Hots! I feel the same way after one of those huge Starbucks coffees with a triple shot of espresso.
Sorry, I am not part of any herd mentality so stop trying to pigeon hole me, it won’t work. I prefer to do my own research and form my own opinions.
In terms of climate change, I don’t see government doing anything more than government ever does about a problem, namely studies, debates, and more studies. But if the problem is serious enough private industry addresses it and solves it. That has how it has been throughout economic history.
In terms of climate change the Insurance Industry has already determined it is a real hazard based on decades of records, is on the case and will have far more impact than NASA ever will. FYI some research I did and published with one of my Ph.D. students.
Marcus Benniefield and Thomas L. Matula, (2009). “The Insurance Industry and Climate Change Economics” Review of Business Research, 9 (5) 82-89.
And yes, they have already impacted President Trump on it in the form of insurance rates. Money talks far better than anything.
https://www.theguardian.com…
Huh? RogueNASA et al being pro-evidenced-based climate science – as is NASA, NOAA, EPA, and the science agencies of all Earth’s nations – is some nefarious scheme by ‘liberal activists’? Give a specific example.
Keith, I’m puzzled by the pique here. None of these folks from what I can tell are professional, paid space journalists who are somehow obligated to be all around the country reporting on all things space. The legitimate Rogue tweeters got their start, IIRC, with the NPS and the new Administrations restrictions, and later attacks, on it, followed quickly by very real attacks, silencing, and now defunding-as-prelude-to-killing EPA, climate science programs, energy efficiency programs (e.g., the zeroing-out of ARPA-E, whose excellent annual conference I recently attended…..) etc. Their concerns on those issues are not imaginary – as you know.
And, they are really nice T-shirts; even came in sumo-sizes for moi.