Space Tensions Eased: Cosmonauts Love Ivanka
Ivanka Trump sent over the moon by Russian cosmonaut’s message from ISS, ABC 13
“Before ending the call, NASA commander Dr. Andrew Feustel said he would be remiss if he didn’t give Cosmonaut Oleg Artemyev a chance to say hello. “Ivanka, I think you very kind and nice person,” Artemyev said, as the crew looked on. “When I see you on TV and the news, my mood improves and rises.” Trump blushed and let out a laugh. “That’s very kind of you to say! Thank you!” she responded.”
Keith’s note: Everyone at NASA and Roscomos breathed a deep sigh of relief today when Oleg Artemyev made an overture to Ivanka Trump. The meeting between Dmitry Rogozin and Jim Bridenstine over possible Soyuz sabotage by U.S. astronauts will go much smoother now. Thanks Ivanka!
Japan, Russia, and a couple other places that I don’t recall. She is great for PR.
Ivanka is probably the most positive part of the Trump team!
That’s damning her with faint praise. Saying she is better than the rest of the Trump team isn’t exactly a complement. While I’m not a fan of her, I think she deserves a slightly more favorable description.
Why?
Well, many people in her field are much worse. Since you’ve invoked Twain, I’ll add a comment about His Imperial Majesty, Norton the First, the self-proclaimed Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico. After being arrested for being insane, the police chief of San Francisco dismissed the charges, released him and noted, “that he had shed no blood; robbed no one; and despoiled no country; which is more than can be said of his fellows in that line.” Except for some questions about robbing someone (see above comment about dubious finances by one of her companies), you could say the same for Ms. Trump.
oh wow, she’s actually capable of forming a complete english sentence! Thanks Ivanka!
BTW: We’re really busy completing work on our new project “Rocket into the Sun”. You and the entire Trump family are invited for a free ride on it’s maiden voyage !
What a sexists comment! Ivanka was born in the USA and graduated Cum Laude from Wharton with a Bachelor of Science in Economics. You do know that a Bachelor of Science in Economics requires a year’s worth of Calculus as well as a knowledge of English? BTW Ivanka also speaks French and Czech.
But go ahead, insult her, just apply the stereotype you have of a woman with a foreign sounding name to her. And folks wonder why women in aerospace, especially minorities, have such a tough time. You just illustrated it.
Perhaps not sexist. I note that her father, based on his speeches, has trouble using complete, English sentences (especially grammatically correct ones) and he’s also a native speaker of English. I’ll forgive sentence fragments and poor grammar in his tweets, since that’s more or less inherent to that medium. Anyway, BobDobb may have been joking about Ms. Trump’s command of English compared to that of her relatives, not based on a false idea about her first language or something sexist.
It’s how he disarms folks who often make the mistake of confusing how a person talks with their IQ. Rodney Dangerfield’s character in the movie Back to School is a good example.It reflects the business world he made his money working in. Folks who are used to polished speech that politicians used are especially put off, but it was one of the factors that got him elected.
I’m not sure if I agree. It depends on how smart you think Mr. Trump is. His lack of complete, grammatically correct sentences could be deliberate and a reasonably smart tactic.
Grammar and syntax are actually a good, error-correcting code. A few words can be misunderstood or missed, and the listener will still understand the meaning, due to the intrinsic redundancy. That also makes it hard to make ambiguous statements. In very formal languages (e.g. Latin) saying something with two meanings is a skill. Even in English, it’s a talent.
For a politician, making deliberately vague statements is useful. If formal grammar and complete sentences prevent that vagueness (which they do), then a smart politician might aviod complete sentences and correct grammar. That might describe Mr. Trump. On the other hand, he might use sentence fragments and poor grammar because he doesn’t really understand his native language. Who knows?
If his English was so poor then how did he get a degree from Wharton? Think about it.
The benefits of accidental birth accrue to some, and I don’t begrudge them. Happened to me in some parallel universe, no doubt.
It’s the sense of entitlement that so often accompanies the happenstance that’s troubling.
I don’t know this lady. I’d like to think that born with beauty and money and power I’d do something useful with it.
No you don’t, and it appears you didn’t even bother to research her background before stereotyping her. I would call being a noted business women, author and philanthropist as useful and accomplishments to be proud of.
“noted business women”
The business she is most associated with failed and was sued for copying designs.
“author”
Pretty sure she used a ghostwriter and her book was not particularly well-received.
“philanthropist”
Easy to give money when you’re born with a lot of it. Also, the Trump charity is under criminal investigation by the state of New York.
The money she earned, including the royalties from her books went to the Urban League and the Boys/Girls Clubs of America.
Plus I think it is very interesting that the Democratic AG of NY waited until he won the Republican Primary to announce the investigation and now, two years later, in another election year, decided to file a civil suit, which has a much much lower bar of evidence, then the criminal charges that would normally be filed if they had found evidence to support it.
But this is as far afield for this thread as your defamation towards Ivanka Trump. Like it or not her talking to the Russians on the ISS did make things easier for Administrator Bridenstine. And quite honestly, when have the children of a President taken any interest in space?
Looks like Ivanka has her own trouble to deal with:
IVANKA TRUMP DIAMONDS EMBROILED IN ALLEGED MONEY-LAUNDERING SCHEME: REPORT
“Diamonds from first daughter Ivanka Trump’s now-defunct fine jewelry line were allegedly used in a massive money-laundering and fraud scheme, according to a federal court filing, GQ reported.
The Commercial Bank of Dubai in late June sought and later got permission to subpoena Ivanka Trump Fine Jewelry, claiming its diamonds were vehicles in a scheme to hide about $100 million owed to the financial institution, GQ reported on Friday based on filings at the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York made over the summer.”
https://www.newsweek.com/iv…
Vlad reads GQ. What a surprise!
Newsweek reads GQ. Vlad reads Newsweek. Rick can’t read.
Apparently you were the only one to notice Rick can’t read and he then tosses out a fallacy of logic to top it off.
Rick Smith wrote: “Vlad reads”
Well you actually got that part right .. but apparently you do not know how to read yourself. That article was from Newsweek NOT GQ.
But since looking at what sites you frequent it was inevitable that you would follow it up with a fallacy of logic.
1st rule of the right wing propagandist always .. and I do mean ALWAYS attack the messenger and above all else NEVER .. and I mean NEVER EVER even mention or even acknowledge the message. Just keep slamming the names of the publications and NEVER mention what the content was.
Waits for the next fallacy of logic that always follows…
What does this have to do with NASA?
What does she have to do with NASA?
You need to do some better research. First, your article is from December which you don’t mention. Second, it doesn’t tell the details of the actual story. Here is one from the International Business Times that does.
https://www.ibtimes.com/iva…
“The Al Sari family is being accused of concealing their money
through the purchase of diamonds from Trump’s business, a company to which she had licensed her name. The family also reportedly purchased diamonds from Jacob Arabo, also known as “Jacob the Jeweler,” with the same intent.”
So the only connection was they bought some of the diamonds, from the Trump firm, AMONG others. Naturally they need a copy of those sale records to make the case against the Al Sari family. No different then the police requiring proof from a car dealer that someone bought a car for cash using money they stole.
It was my understanding the trump & family partnered with Felix Sater on real estate deals for years. Sater is a convicted Russian mafia money launderer, so how were the trump-sater projects were funded? Also Sater is a longtime FBI informant and the trump Soho in deal, was ran by Ivanka Trump. Felix Sater spent seven hours testifying before the Senate Intelligence Committee, that led to the announcing that Russia rigged the election. Sure seems to be in the middle of what ever is going on ..
??? What does Felix Sater from Russia have to do with Al Sari from the Mid-East? Or are you basing your response on both just being foreign last names that sound similar and so you think they are one and the same?
money laundering .. it is every where in their background..
Why do headlines like this keep appearing? Why do these keep getting investigated?
“Donald Trump and the mansion that no one wanted. Then came a Russian fertilizer king”
https://www.miamiherald.com…
Simple. He is President and so folks like you will read them and spread them around the Internet generating advertising revenue for the publications. It’s a centuries old strategy adapted to the Internet Age.
Donald Jr: We see Russian money ‘pouring in’
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/…
“ERIC TRUMP REPORTEDLY BRAGGED ABOUT ACCESS TO $100 MILLION IN RUSSIAN MONEY
“We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.””
https://www.vanityfair.com/…
“Trump supporters may be in for a crash course on money laundering”
https://www.kansascity.com/…
“Trump’s Dirty Money
Russian money saved Trump when his projects were on the verge of collapse. Will it now be the cause of his political demise?”
https://www.fairobserver.co…
“NARCO-A-LAGO: MONEY LAUNDERING AT THE TRUMP OCEAN CLUB PANAMA”
https://www.globalwitness.o…
Why can’t a simple human moment go by without the carping?
There’s a wonderful instance at the end of the film “Oh, God!” George Burns (speaking only as the voice of God at that point, as his physical form had disappeared) begins his closing comment to the courtroom thus:
I know how hard it is in these times to have faith. But maybe if you could have the faith to start with, maybe the times would change. You could change them. Think about it. Try.
Faith in a deity or not, it would be easy to reconsider this sentiment to address the intense back-and-forth nastiness that has crept into every last tributary of public (& private) discourse today. Each and every one of us, in every moment, decision, and action before us, can choose to be better than our weaknesses would let us be. Can’t we each start…now?
Burns (as God) continues:
And try not to hurt each other. There’s been enough of that. It really gets in the way.
Regardless of all the surrounding circumstances, this specific exchange was a simple human moment, a techno-enabled bit of amusing banter between two persons. That it was between two citizens from two different nations which are having serious political issues between them makes it that much more poignant.
We—each one of us—have/has the capacity to choose “the better angels of our nature.”
OTOH, to paraphrase Twain: “It’s one thing to have a positive mind, it’s another to let the geese run around in there.”
And how precisely does this pertain to my point? Are you suggesting that offering snarky dribble regardless of the specific circumstances actually contributes something constructive toward the betterment of humankind?
Wow….except for Bob Mahoney, this thread is un-freakin-believable. For the first time in memory, NASA is actually getting a LOT of attention from the White House.
In the long run it is NASA’s practical value, not its political visibility, that determine whether our tax dollars are well spent.