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Rogozin On Russia And ISS: Will They Stay Or Will They Go?

By Keith Cowing
NASA Watch
April 30, 2022
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Rogozin On Russia And ISS: Will They Stay Or Will They Go?

Decision on space station’s service limit depends on situation regarding Russia – Rogozin, TASS
“Russia will make a decision on the future of the International Space Station (ISS) based on the developments regarding the country, Head of Russia’s State Space Corporation Roscosmos Dmitry Rogozin said in an interview with TASS on Friday. “We should not hustle now declaring our stance and will carry on with our work within the timeframe set by the government, which is until 2024,” Rogozin said. “A decision regarding the ISS future will depend to a great extent on the developing situation both in Russia and around it.” He also said that if Russia decided to withdraw from the ISS project, it would notify its foreign partners about this decision a year in advance. Rogozin reiterated that a package of proposals on Russia’s cooperation with foreign partners on the ISS project after the year of 2024 was sent to Russian President Vladimir Putin and the country’s government.”
Russia Will Quit International Space Station Over Sanctions, Bloomberg
“The head of Russia’s space program said Moscow will pull out of the International Space Station, state media reported, a move it has blamed on sanctions imposed over the invasion of Ukraine. “The decision has been taken already, we’re not obliged to talk about it publicly,” Tass and RIA Novosti reported Roscosmos General Director Dmitry Rogozin as saying in an interview with state TV on Saturday.”

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24 responses to “Rogozin On Russia And ISS: Will They Stay Or Will They Go?”

  1. Keith Vauquelin says:
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    Yet another bluff called from a government of cowards, thieves, and butchers.

    You have no credibility amongst your peers, Rogozin.

    Go back to growing potatoes and milking cows. Both are very likely the finest skill sets you possess.

    Helping Mankind inherit the stars will never appear on your resume. You are not even an afterthought or footnote in space exploration history.

    • fcrary says:
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      Are you seriously suggesting that Mr. Rogozin knows how to grow potatoes or milk cows? As far as I know, he’s never done any agricultural or manual labor in his life. His parents were mid-level members of the Soviet nomenklatura, he majored in journalism in college, and it’s unlikely he’s ever used a shovel or a milking pain in his life. His only skills, as far as I can tell, are managing (or mismanaging) government agencies, and making stupid and offensive statements. So he probably is currently doing what he’s best at.

      I wish I could remember who wrote the most accurate description of him I’ve recent read. It’s very rare to see someone put his foot in his mouth, and then follow up on that by shooting himself in the foot.

    • Todd Austin says:
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      I nearly never downvote comments on NASAWatch, but the racism in this post is just beyond the pale. You destroy any argument you might have had to make by resorting to that sort of language.

      • james w barnard says:
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        Did I miss something? Where is the racism in any of these posts? If there is any “racism” it is in the anti-human-racism of the Russian government against the people in and of Ukraine. I don’t know the engineering problems that would/will result from Russia withdrawing from the ISS, but it looks like it is time to consider some of the proposals for commercial space stations, especially since NASA itself is talking about deactivation in 2024 or 2030.

        • Todd Austin says:
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          James, I was referring specifically to “Go back to growing potatoes and milking cows.”, which implies that Russians are ignorant potato farmers. What is the point of that? How does contribute anything of value to the conversation? Without any doubt whatsoever, the actions of the Russian military in Ukraine are horrific. They are a continuation of similar patterns of behavior in Grozny, Dubrovnic, and Aleppo, among others. Saying that taking cheap shots at a person’s ethnicity is beyond the pale does not in any way excuse the actions of the Russian government and military. It says that if we want to criticize those actions, as surely we must, then we must raise ourselves up to a higher standard, rather than slinking down to wallow at the level to which they have descended.

          • Matthew Black says:
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            Your statement is pretty mild compared to some of the comments I’ve seen on the interwebs lately: if you take into account that this year is a big anniversary of the Cuban Missile Crisis, I think y’all can imagine what I mean… 🙁

          • Todd Austin says:
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            It’s difficult, at times, to unwind the angry chest beaters from the paid trolls. At any moment, either could pop up on any side of the conversations that take place. Large swaths of the Intertubes are no more than noise.

      • David Fowler says:
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        What now?

    • Jack says:
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      This is a more insightful article:

      https://arstechnica.com/sci

    • Winner says:
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      The linked Bloomberg article is wrong. See the ArsTechnica article explaining this. Russia indicated that they will give a one year warning of leaving the station. Not that they are leaving at any specific time. No date has been named.

  2. Zen Puck says:
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    Elections have consequences. Indeed they do.
    Wars have consequences too. Indeed they will. Russia should be isolated and no longer a partner with the US.

    • Todd Austin says:
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      Russia is isolated. Who voted with them in the UN General Assembly vote calling for withdrawal from Ukraine? Belarus, North Korea, Eritrea, and Syria – that’s it. Points of communication are crucial in a situation like this. It may prove to be a vital part of the path back to sanity.

  3. Bad Horse says:
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    He’s communicating a desire for nations to be patient while the russian people remove the animals from power. A commitment to give 12 months notice indicates they will do so in 2023. They own everything behind the FGB. I for one don’t think they can undock. They may just disable systems as they leave requiring ISS to keep the hatches closed for good and drag the mass around orbit.The US Segment for ISS has a design life of 15 years. Time for new stations.

  4. Winner says:
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    Perhaps instead the other international partners should give Russia a date upon which they must leave.

  5. Nick K says:
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    I suppose that Biden and NASA do not want to upset the applecart by calling on Russia to leave. But I don’t know why we show any concern for the Russians at all. The Russians showed zero concern for the thousands they have killed and the millions whose lives have been upset. They ought to be treated in similar fashion.

    The US Administration ought to give Russia an ultimatem. It is time for them to leave. Russia is not needed on ISS. Once they were but now they are not. If it makes them look bad, too bad.

    • Todd Austin says:
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      I have no doubt that the clearer heads in the administration see the high value in having a channel through which discussion can take place. At the end of the day, discussion is the only path to peace, and people at the Department of State know that very well.

      • Brian_M2525 says:
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        I disagree. Everyone else gives Russia the finger but the space program should be magnanimous and offer “a channel” for some future imagined communication. As though the space program would be the channel that would be needed.

        As Einstein said, ‘the world is a dangerous place not because of those who are evil but because of those who do and say nothing and let the evil doers get their way.’

        • Todd Austin says:
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          Brian, the communication taking place through ISS is neither future or imaginary, it is ongoing and it is quite real. Responding appropriately to the atrocities taking place in Ukraine does not in any way mean shutting down the channels through which deescalation could take place. We have a responsibility both to the people of Ukraine who are defending themselves and to our own populations to stand up to the bully and stop him. Did we declare Germany, Japan, or Italy to be permanent enemies because of their actions in WWII? No. The return to peace will involve not only military action, but diplomatic action, as well. As Nixon demonstrated with Ping Pong Diplomacy, diplomacy is not always implemented by professional diplomats.

  6. Chris Owen says:
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    Fortunately we don’t have to rely upon Russia for taxi service any more. I wonder how that would’ve gone down.

    • Todd Austin says:
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      Rather than ‘any more’, it might be better to say ‘today’. The SpaceX Dragon has become the new US single point of failure. Boeing has yet to demonstrate the functionality of Starliner. There’s a non-zero chance that we may need seats on Soyuz in the future, as there’s a non-zero chance that Russia may need seats on an American spacecraft.

  7. tutiger87 says:
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    Bye Felicia…