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Mike Griffin/Scott Pace Road Show Update

By Keith Cowing
NASA Watch
July 10, 2012
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AIAA to Hold Capitol Hill Dialogue on Deep Space Exploration
“The panel … will be moderated by Dr. Scott Pace, director, Space Policy Institute, The George Washington University. … ” AIAA President Mike Griffin stated, “Human history is the story of societies expanding the frontiers of their time, exploiting and consolidating their gains on those frontiers, and moving on again. That history is not written by or about the people who stayed home …” … blah blah blah … (Apollo on Steroids, etc).
Keith’s note: Once again Mike Griffin and Scott Pace are using a third party forum to (1) whine about the big game they lost in high school and (2) advance their personal views – views that may or may not represent the Romney campaign – which is (3) an organization that they may or may not represent depending on how they (4) want the media to report what they say or did not say so as to (5) stay in the news so that (6) one of them gets to run NASA (again).

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15 responses to “Mike Griffin/Scott Pace Road Show Update”

  1. newpapyrus says:
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    Griffin, of course, undermined  the Constellation program by turning it into an Apollo on steroids program instead of a lunar base program.   Also picking an expensive architecture that delayed the immediate development of a heavy lift vehicle also didn’t help.

    We will never right this ship until NASA is finally allowed to make the next logical step in the New Frontier by establishing a permanent human presence on the surface of the Moon– something that should have been done two or three decades ago.

    Marcel F. Williams

    • jski says:
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      Whereas I don’t share your uncompromisingly negative view of Griffin, I do share your enthusiasm for a permanent presence on the Moon.  It proximity to earth and it resources make it logically the first step.

      —John

    • Steve Whitfield says:
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      Marcel,

      I’m not saying that I think your Moon statement is true or false, but I sure would like to hear your logic behind it, and why you think it should have been done decades ago.  Thanks,

      Steve

  2. Christopher Miles says:
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    GOP Congressman (Hultgren) to introduce agenda by Griffin and Pace. Also in attendance- ATK and LockMart, and… a doctor. 

    What is the point of this, really? (other than to complain to one another about how we are supposedly abandoning Deep Space to the Chinese?)Perhaps he can justify his AIAA leadership with meetings like this?I still don’t understand why the moon is so crucial to Griffin. 

    Yes we know that radiation is going to be a problem for Deep Space travelers. Yes we know about the bone and muscle issues.

    Again, what it NEW about this meeting?

  3. Littrow says:
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    Someone from Romney’s camp but no one from the Administration. Cost+ companies, but no commercial space?

  4. Andrew Gasser says:
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    This is why NASA is losing – they refuse to innovate.  They refuse to adjust to the economic reality that our country faces.  Sadly, Mr. Hultgren has bought into this and he continues to think that BFRs are the most important thing.

    We must continue to reach out to those on the Science Committee and let show them, respectfully, that the SAA model will work.  

    It is an up-hill battle, but winnable.

    Respectfully,
    Andrew Gasser
    TEA Party in Space

  5. wyliec says:
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    In my opinion Griffin, Bolden and Garver are all political hacks who have done nothing but do damage to the U.S. space program and NASA. I just watched Garver on a NASA TV technical short speaking to a large group. In the space of 5 minutes she mentioned Obama and the Obama administration at least 10 probably closer to 15 times. And every time she mentioned the  presidents name she looked like she was going to ascend to heaven in pure joy. I wish their was someone who could run NASA and had a wit of intelligence. The above three certainly do not fit the bill. 

    • Steve Whitfield says:
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      wyliec,

      That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. However, I do find it ironic that other people’s intelligence is being attacked by someone who can’t even spell.

      Personally, I don’t see how you can put Bolden and Garver in the same class as Griffin. They, at least, have been doing what they believe is best for NASA and the US, and have been following the orders of their commander, President Obama (whose name being spoken seems to bother you). Griffin generally didn’t see fit to do either one. Griffin, as NASA Administrator, did only what Griffin wanted. He should have been kept on a much shorter leash, in my opinion, but wasn’t, whereas Bolden, a man who can be trusted to follow orders and see the big picture, has been kept on a very short leash, almost from day one — by Congress, who actually have no legal jurisdiction over the NASA Administrator at all.

      Bolden and Garver both have impressive biographies and extensive résumés listing significant professional accomplishments. Do you? Please don’t judge anyone’s intelligence by whether or not you happen to like them. That’s prejudice, pure and simple. It also takes a lot of courage to take on the responsibilities that Bolden and Garver have, especially in the knowledge that complete strangers are going to publicly insult you, despite your best efforts. But then again, being insulted by someone entirely anonymous probably doesn’t mean a whole lot to either of them.

      Steve

      • DTARS says:
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        Intelligence is thing very hard to measure. All brains are different.

        Spell checker

        Spell checker

        Lol

        • Steve Whitfield says:
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          DTARS,

          Agreed, intelligence is a hard thing to measure, especially since there is no universal definition of what intelligence is.  IQ tests are meaningless; at best they measure how similar a candidate’s knowledge and experience are to those of the guy who made up the test (which is why black kids score lower on a test created by a white man).  If intelligence is a hard thing to measure, then people should be that much less inclined to make public statements about the alleged intelligence of others — especially people they’ve never met.

          Steve

  6. Stone says:
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    I see that Mr. Gasser is still touting the Tea Party through his signature.

    Anyone that thinks the Tea party will save anything of the United States of America is so mis-informed.  The Tea Party is intent on the disollution of the United States so that they may establish the States of this Union as totally sovereign entities.

    Respectfully,
    Stone
    No Tea Party Anywhere