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Space Force Now Has A Magazine Too

By Keith Cowing
NASA Watch
February 26, 2019
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NASA Watch founder, Explorers Club Fellow, ex-NASA, Away Teams, Journalist, Space & Astrobiology, Lapsed climber.

32 responses to “Space Force Now Has A Magazine Too”

  1. TheBrett says:
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    “Mars by 2050” – those deadlines keep on slipping. You’d think Space Force would at least be able to cross-subsidize some heavy lift boosters for NASA and friends.

    • DJE51 says:
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      2027 is my prediction, courtesy of SpaceX with heavy involvement of NASA. So that headline is not realistic, and is no better than a total guess. If SpaceX can’t get it done by the mid to late 30s, then it probably aint gonna happen in any other way that is predictable right now. NASA certainly can’t afford anything like this, especially with the moon in her sights right now.

      • Gerald Cecil says:
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        Yes, but by 2050 all billionaires will have decamped from their New Zealand bunkers to bunkers on Mars so will need protection from lawless (Chinese) settlers, That’s where the Space Force(TM) will come in. “We gotta secure those methane sources.” If you gotta hammer then everything else looks like a nail.

      • Bill Housley says:
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        Hmmm, space launch is a very heavily disrupted industry right now. So much that the negative predictions become the more unreliable ones.
        Affordability is a moving target. So, what $/lb to LEO did you use to say that NASA can’t afford it? The numbers that I’ve seen from them all seem to use ULA pricing. The rate things are going, current ULA launchers aren’t even going to exist anymore in 2050…neither will anything else at that price point.

        • DJE51 says:
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          The reason I stated “NASA certainly can’t afford anything like this” was not based on any analysis of launch prices, but rather the conclusion reached by the previous administration that a moon base was unaffordable without a large (and extremely unlikely) increase to NASA’s budget. It then went ahead and cancelled Constellation, which had been the moon program at that time, and focused on a “flexible path”, while NASA started to talk as if mars was their destination, which was ludicrous given they had just determined the moon base was too expensive. So, I have since shifted all my hopes and dreams onto SpaceX! They are not being any more unrealistic than NASA has been recently.

          • Bill Housley says:
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            All space exploration cost estimates/conclusions dated clear back when Constellation was cancelled would use Constellation/SLS pricing….and are obsolete several times over.
            But I agree that, using that rediculously outdated launch pricing, a Moon base is too expensive. Constellation’s problem was schedule creep caused by inadequate yearly funding, resulting in more years of fixed expenses. SLS problem is similar…where projected cost/launch causes mission erosion. Government plays this game with space funding…make it too expensive to use, thereby making space exploration look stupid and wasteful…but play the game for a while to help support the defense industry in peace time. Commercial Space solves this and many other problems and thus makes things possible that weren’t possible/affordable before.

            And you are right. All pre-Starman Interplanetary exploration project cost estimates need to now be reappraised.

          • Michael Spencer says:
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            Bill, and DJ: I’ve figured the same thing; SX has made a mess of budgeting!

            For instance, our Russian gougers partners were charging in the end something like $80± millions er ride; it’s not clear exactly what was included, or not; a pre-flight hotel room, or meal, for instance (the particulars not important).

            The first numbers I heard about SX’ fees were around $30± million per seat, again not a specific list, but one hell of a difference.

            As of today, F9 is an operational vehicle. It’s trusted enough that the launch this morning of DM-1 was on a proven booster.

            The real money savings will be in the out years when the SX “super booster” gains the same operational status; this will reduce lift costs by alf, at least.

            Fun times.

          • Bill Housley says:
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            Yes…and I’ve heard experts write that the Soyuz might not be as safe anymore as it used to be.

            Not because the spacecraft itself isn’t a solid design, it is, but because ROSCosmos is suffering from budget concerns and corner-trimming.

      • chuckc192000 says:
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        My prediction for Mars landing — not in the lifetime of anyone currently alive.

    • fcrary says:
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      You do realize this is a magazine published by the National Enquirer, don’t you?

  2. fcrary says:
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    Well, that made me check, and the Weekly World News is back as an online tabloid. Their current top stories include, “BOOK YOUR ONE-WAY TRIP TO MARS!” and “SATURN IS A GIANT UFO!” What more could you want? Well, I’m sure they’ll eventually tell us about the artist guests Yusaku Maezawa will invite on his dearMoon (SpaceX Starship) trip around the Moon. He couldn’t possibly forget to invite Elvis.

    • Michael Spencer says:
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      “Weekly World News is back”

      No matter how hard the politicians try, Journalists are out there on behalf of the American People, doing whatever it takes to expose actual facts.

      Truth will prevail.

  3. Ioannis Kokkinidis says:
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    I saw that magazine about a month ago at the super market. Considering that at that particular super market all magazines are 10% off the newsstand price, I seriously considered buying it, but in the end I have too much to read at home

  4. mfwright says:
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    Lot of this reminds me of vintage sci-fi but the magazine has no scantily dressed women or other planets where everyone speaks English.

  5. David Fowler says:
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    I saw a dude behind me in the checkout line buying a copy.

  6. Bill Housley says:
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    Ya, I saw this in the magazine stand at a grocery store the other day, but it seemed gimmicky. Like the name “Space Force” had been borrowed for a magazine with more general space history and accomplishments stuff.

  7. Donald Barker says:
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    Exactly what does the purported SF have to do with Mars, or are they planning an invasion? Seems they should keep on relevant topics at the very least or they are just wasting tax $$, again.

    • fcrary says:
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      You’re forgetting the Martian invasions of Earth in 1905, 1938, 1953 and 2005. They haven’t left us alone for more than a few decades at a time. Of course the Space Force needs to go there and stop them.

      • Vladislaw says:
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        Actually you missed a couple also .. the infamous Mars Attacks in 1996 and the Martian attack in 1963,

        https://www.youtube.com/wat

        • fcrary says:
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          Thanks. By the way, can anyone confirm the date of the 1905 invasion? I think it’s correct, but the primary reference is pretty vague about the exact year. It was “in the early years of the twentieth century” and textual evidence puts it in a year with a Mars opposition in early spring. I think that makes it 1905.

      • Jack says:
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        Actually it’s going to protect us from the Shadow ships that are currently on Mars.
        https://uploads.disquscdn.c

      • Bill Housley says:
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        Hey, hostile Marian’s are a thing on Dr. Who and on Bugs Bunny cartoons too (Marvin the Martian). Not sure what years these events occurred though. 😉